[Cromosapien]

Diavel Rear Spring​

What Rear Spring are you Using?

Stock Spring	30	78.95%
Firm Ducati Spring	1	2.63%
Modified Stock Spring	0	0.00%
Ohlins Shock and Spring	7	18.42%

Rider Weight without gear

>/= 160lbs	6	15.79%
>/=180lbs	9	23.68%
>/=210lbs	9	23.68%
>=240lbs	7	18.42%
<=255lbs	7	18.42%

 

[Cromosapien]

So I'm the typcial small Texas sized rider, 6'3(1.9m) 240lbs(109 kg) with no gear. I love the Diavel but I'm finding I really want better performance out to rear suspension. The front oddly enough is fine for me but the rear spring seems too soft. I know from the various threads that the ohlins is worth the money but I am simply not ready to drop that much coin on it yet, as damping seems to me ok with the stock shock. It just has trouble making up for a too light spring.

So have any of you sprung for the the firm spring and if so what are your recommended base line settings with the new spring?

And if you don't mind what is your weight without gear, it'd be nice to know the stock spring works for any of the smaller guys like me.

 

[ReidMcT]

Have you determined whether a stiffer spring is even available? I know that the manual mentions it, but that was written before Ducati changed the specification for the rear shock.

 

[Cromosapien]

the firmer rear spring is available for about 200 US.

 

[Coop]

Then add in roughly four hours labour to swap it, and the Ohlins option starts to make economic sense.

 

[johnno]

Im about the same weight as you. Just crank the preload up. Way too soft without doing the preload

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[TurboTiger]

Rear springs are available from Ohlins. I replaced the rear spring on mine with a stiffer spring.
See my suspension thread.
http://www.diavel-forum.com/index.php?/topic/5414-modifying-the-stock-diavel-suspension/page__fromsearch__1

 

[Sonic Duck]

Then add in roughly four hours labour to swap it, and the Ohlins option starts to make economic sense.

That's bad math, the four hours you're spending either way...it's still $200 vs. Ohlin$

(edit: unless you're saying four hours to swap the spring on the shock...which I would think to be high to say the least

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[the.rubber.duc]

That's bad math, the four hours you're spending either way...it's still $200 vs. Ohlin$

(edit: unless you're saying four hours to swap the spring on the shock...which I would think to be high to say the least

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maybe slight difference since you wouldn't have to disassemble a drop in. but, I agree with you.

 

[Coop]

Wouldn't the labour be roughly the same to swap the spring or the whole shock?
If so, it's an expensive way to find out that changing just the spring isn't going to satisfy you, only to have to pay that labour out again to install an Ohlins shock.
They're not all that expensive really, considering the improvement it makes.

 

[Baz Turd]

I have the stock suspension, I am about 10 lbs heavier than you (all muscle) and I don't have a problem with the suspension since I had a specialist in suspension set it up correctly.

 

[Sonic Duck]

Wouldn't the labour be roughly the same to swap the spring or the whole shock?
If so, it's an expensive way to find out that changing just the spring isn't going to satisfy you, only to have to pay that labour out again to install an Ohlins shock.
They're not all that expensive really, considering the improvement it makes.

T'was my point, the labor is a wash...I thought you were point out that the 4 hours labor would make the spring closer in price to the Ohlins.

And expensive is relative term based on personal situation. We all can't be land barons from Mudgee

 

[Sonic Duck]

I have the stock suspension, I am about 10 lbs heavier than you (all muscle) and I don't have a problem with the suspension since I had a specialist in suspension set it up correctly.

You're 330 lbs?!?!?

 

[Coop]

Understood SD.

Lord Coop 1st

 

[Baz Turd]

You're 330 lbs?!?!?

I am a little heavy but your wife likes a big boy

 

[Sonic Duck]

I am a little heavy but your wife likes a big boy

WIfe? hrmmm, perhaps so...if you could point her out I'd like to confirm.

 

[Guest]

T'was my point, the labor is a wash...I thought you were point out that the 4 hours labor would make the spring closer in price to the Ohlins.

And expensive is relative term based on personal situation. We all can't be land barons from Mudgee

I Think you're missing coop's point, he's saying that unless the heavier spring definitely proves to be a satisfactory solution then chances are a second attempt (whether a shock swap or more mods to the std shock) will mean another 4 hour spend on labour. The process of remove/refit is the same whether the spring or the whole shock is swapped out by the look of it.

 

[Sloopy]

I have read so much on this and played with stock for a while. I decided to do in once correctly and am extremely happy with the outcome.

While everyone else is still have the same conversation over and over and over and over, I am riding in pleasure on my Ohlin's front and back.

 

[ray diavel]

gents

I weigh 105kg 6ft i have not found a problem so far not done a lot of miles bought the bike second hand waiting for weather to change to make a better judgement dont know what setting the suspension is on.

MCN do a video on youtube ohlins vs standard on a track verdict it's better but not really worth the money although the rider carrying out the test is a lot lighter than me.

the one thing i am shocked about is that on the carbon or the AMG, is that ohlins is not standard oh and i prefer my bikes to have the muscle?

 

[916hoon]

Wouldn't the labour be roughly the same to swap the spring or the whole shock?
If so, it's an expensive way to find out that changing just the spring isn't going to satisfy you, only to have to pay that labour out again to install an Ohlins shock.
They're not all that expensive really, considering the improvement it makes.

I am pretty sure you could unbolt the shock and change the spring with the preload pipe still connected.
should take no more than 1/2 and hour.

I hope so because I have a heavier spring on order.