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Hey guys.
I have a 2020 Red Diavel 1260s. I'm undecided on a exhaust. I can't decide between the Termignoni, Arrow, or Zard.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of each? I know looks are subjective.
I wish I could see and hear more info on the Arrow pro race version.

Is one brand higher quality in workmanship over the other?

Thanks.
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Hmm..
Are you sure you convert it right?
I think 6,5lbs are more like aprox 3 kilograms (metric) - if not it weight more than stock

A complete Termi is aprox 4~4.2 kg (9lbs) (without/with dB killer)

Stock Euro 4 version is aprox 11 kg (inncl valve)
Hmm..
Are you sure you convert it right?
I think 6,5lbs are more like aprox 3 kilograms (metric) - if not it weight more than stock

A complete Termi is aprox 4~4.2 kg (9lbs) (without/with dB killer)

Stock Euro 4 version is aprox 11 kg (inncl valve)
No way the termi is lighter than the arrow. I weighed the arrow on my Freon scale and it came in at exactly 6.3 us pounds.
lol. Or 2.858 kg.
the stock exhaust is literally 3 times as heavy.

My fault lol. I’ve been up for 26 hours straight. Time for me to hit the sheets.
Yes... That's better ...

You Arrow are approx 1 kg / 3 lbs lighter than Termi.
Nice work Voodooo.

I look forward to reading your ride review in a few days.

Didn't you move the battery holder nor oil cooler?
Even if so, were you able to unscrew three nuts of engine outlet?
I know Aorrow's instruction says it is possible, but looks actually not easy.

You removed body works.
What is your next modification?
Nice work Voodooo.

I look forward to reading your ride review in a few days.

Didn't you move the battery holder nor oil cooler?
Even if so, were you able to unscrew three nuts of engine outlet?
I know Aorrow's instruction says it is possible, but looks actually not easy.

You removed body works.
What is your next modification?
I won’t be riding it anytime soon. We have a ton of rain in the forecast.

the only body panel that needs removed is the right side lower fairing. This is to remove the oem factory exhaust valve servo motor.

the reason why I have the tank panels off is because I replaced the air filter, gas cap and center tank section. I hate doing things twice and try to do things in one step so I’m not repeating steps.

the exhaust is very easy to install and the front header pipe and it’s 3 flange nuts are accessible without removing the left side lower fairing. I was able to remove all 3 front header flange nuts from the left side of the bike. The only thing I removed was the front spark plug boot so I could swing the wrench a bit more. I also cover all areas with tape to prevent any scratches.


DO NOT REMOVE THE OIL COOLER OR OIL LINES. DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERY HOLDER / BOX.
You also do NOT need to loosen or remove the rear 90° header pipe. The only thing I removed from the rear header pipe is the black metal cover so you can access the springs holding the rear link pipe to the rear header pipe.

In all, from taping up all the areas with tape, removing the right lower side panel, removing all 3 front header nuts, removing the battery, removing the stock muffler, and servo motor and installing the new Arrow exhaust took me about 2 hours.

Im so glad I went with the Arrow over the Termi. Not only because of the sound, but the quality is way better. When I bought my Diavel from the dealer they offered the Termi. They also had a bike in the service are that just installed the Termi on. It sounds good. But I don’t like the looks or the quality of the Termi compared to the Arrow. These are my opinions. Plus the Arrow is lighter and $2000.00 USD cheaper. And sounds badass. These videos were cold starts. Once’s it at operating temps the exhaust note tones down a bit. I’m a very happy customer. Highly recommend.
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I won’t be riding it anytime soon. We have a ton of rain in the forecast.

the only body panel that needs removed is the right side lower fairing. This is to remove the oem factory exhaust valve servo motor.

the reason why I have the tank panels off is because I replaced the air filter, gas cap and center tank section. I hate doing things twice and try to do things in one step so I’m not repeating steps.

the exhaust is very easy to install and the front header pipe and it’s 3 flange nuts are accessible without removing the left side lower fairing. I was able to remove all 3 front header flange nuts from the left side of the bike. The only thing I removed was the front spark plug boot so I could swing the wrench a bit more. I also cover all areas with tape to prevent any scratches.


DO NOT REMOVE THE OIL COOLER OR OIL LINES. DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERY HOLDER / BOX.
You also do NOT need to loosen or remove the rear 90° header pipe. The only thing I removed from the rear header pipe is the black metal cover so you can access the springs holding the rear link pipe to the rear header pipe.

In all, from taping up all the areas with tape, removing the right lower side panel, removing all 3 front header nuts, removing the battery, removing the stock muffler, and servo motor and installing the new Arrow exhaust took me about 2 hours.

Im so glad I went with the Arrow over the Termi. Not only because of the sound, but the quality is way better. When I bought my Diavel from the dealer they offered the Termi. They also had a bike in the service are that just installed the Termi on. It sounds good. But I don’t like the looks or the quality of the Termi compared to the Arrow. These are my opinions. Plus the Arrow is lighter and $2000.00 USD cheaper. And sounds badass. These videos were cold starts. Once’s it at operating temps the exhaust note tones down a bit. I’m a very happy customer. Highly recommend.
Also I have gotten an Arrow Pro-Race pipe.
Rainy days are lasting my area too.
I have time to learn the procedure of Aorrow' pipe installation. Your information is helpful.

I understand what you say on tank panel removing.
Actualy when I had to remove panels and gas tank to access the ECU, I bought a Spring air filter then switched.

I've not seen Termi. So I cannot compare qualities of Arrow and Termi. But anyway I think Arrow's looks is better than Termi.
Also I have gotten an Arrow Pro-Race pipe.
Rainy days are lasting my area too.
I have time to learn the procedure of Aorrow' pipe installation. Your information is helpful.

I understand what you say on tank panel removing.
Actualy when I had to remove panels and gas tank to access the ECU, I bought a Spring air filter then switched.

I've not seen Termi. So I cannot compare qualities of Arrow and Termi. But anyway I think Arrow's looks is better than Termi.
Same here.
I replaced the gas cap, went with a Sprint air filter and also went with a gloss black tank center. The main reason why my tank sides are still off, is that I’m still waiting on the Ilemberger carbon fiber ignition switch cover.
I also switch to the black side scoops.

Don’t worry about the install. It’s easy.
you’ll need a 10mm 12 point box wrench. Preferably a long offset straight one. That will make getting to the 3 front header flange nuts a breeze.
All 3 nuts can be removed / installed from the left side of the bike.
You also need a 4-5-6mm Allen key or allen socket bits. And a spring removal hook tool or pliers. The hook tool makes it safer and easier. Arrow supplies a spring tool with the exhaust.
Same here.
I replaced the gas cap, went with a Sprint air filter and also went with a gloss black tank center. The main reason why my tank sides are still off, is that I’m still waiting on the Ilemberger carbon fiber ignition switch cover.
I also switch to the black side scoops.

Don’t worry about the install. It’s easy.
you’ll need a 10mm 12 point box wrench. Preferably a long offset straight one. That will make getting to the 3 front header flange nuts a breeze.
All 3 nuts can be removed / installed from the left side of the bike.
You also need a 4-5-6mm Allen key or allen socket bits. And a spring removal hook tool or pliers. The hook tool makes it safer and easier. Arrow supplies a spring tool with the exhaust.
Thanks Voodooo.
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6.5 US pounds or about 14.3 kg.
I won’t be riding it anytime soon. We have a ton of rain in the forecast.

the only body panel that needs removed is the right side lower fairing. This is to remove the oem factory exhaust valve servo motor.

the reason why I have the tank panels off is because I replaced the air filter, gas cap and center tank section. I hate doing things twice and try to do things in one step so I’m not repeating steps.

the exhaust is very easy to install and the front header pipe and it’s 3 flange nuts are accessible without removing the left side lower fairing. I was able to remove all 3 front header flange nuts from the left side of the bike. The only thing I removed was the front spark plug boot so I could swing the wrench a bit more. I also cover all areas with tape to prevent any scratches.


DO NOT REMOVE THE OIL COOLER OR OIL LINES. DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERY HOLDER / BOX.
You also do NOT need to loosen or remove the rear 90° header pipe. The only thing I removed from the rear header pipe is the black metal cover so you can access the springs holding the rear link pipe to the rear header pipe.

In all, from taping up all the areas with tape, removing the right lower side panel, removing all 3 front header nuts, removing the battery, removing the stock muffler, and servo motor and installing the new Arrow exhaust took me about 2 hours.

Im so glad I went with the Arrow over the Termi. Not only because of the sound, but the quality is way better. When I bought my Diavel from the dealer they offered the Termi. They also had a bike in the service are that just installed the Termi on. It sounds good. But I don’t like the looks or the quality of the Termi compared to the Arrow. These are my opinions. Plus the Arrow is lighter and $2000.00 USD cheaper. And sounds badass. These videos were cold starts. Once’s it at operating temps the exhaust note tones down a bit. I’m a very happy customer. Highly recommend.
If you run way too lean on the stock map and free flowing exhaust, you can burn your valves to smithereens. I'm not saying it will happen, but there's a risk. And if it happens Ducati can refuse all warranty claims if they find out about the exhaust. I know a Yamaha dealer pretty well privately, and he told me they had an MT9 running an SC project cat delete, and he burned his valves. They tried to do him right and file the claim to Yamaha but they turned him down.. That's a pricey repair if it happens to a Ducati I reckon. Personally, I'd get a tune somehow.

All that aside it looks and sounds incredible.. Better than the Termi.. I just wish it had a dB killer option.. The other Arrow pipe with the long silencer looks like utter turd. I considered a hybrid with Arrow mid-pipe and some other silencer.
Will I need a tune with the arrow exhaust and sprint air filter? Would a power commander for the Xdiavel be able to be used with the Diavel 1260?
I am Currently looking into getting the Arrow Pro -Race for my 2022 Diavel also but know one can tell me if the exhaust will fit the Euro5 models, can anyone help me out with some info.
hi boys.
I wanted to mount the arrow pro race exhaust (that of vodooo) the exhaust is not approved for road use but only racing.In Italy the police are very attentive to sound emissions and I was wondering if it is possible to insert a db killer like the one in the picture.
Thank you

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hi boys.
I wanted to mount the arrow pro race exhaust (that of vodooo) the exhaust is not approved for road use but only racing.In Italy the police are very attentive to sound emissions and I was wondering if it is possible to insert a db killer like the one in the picture.
Thank you

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I got a DB killer pictured below and tried instalation then succeeded.
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You can easily find this kind of cheep DB killers at eBay.
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DB killers which diameter are 60mm can be put in the silencer then is held.
But my bought DB killer could not make loud less as expected.
I modified the DB killer like pictured below then am using.
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thanks talkriver!!!
I was looking for that

For Exhaust valve you have used ESE exhaust servo eliminator HEALTECH?

I ask you this because during the search it tells me that it is compatible for diavel 1200 and not compatible for diavel 1260. is it possible?
did the 1200 model also have an exhaust servomotor?
thanks a lot again !!

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thanks talkriver!!!
I was looking for that

For Exhaust valve you have used ESE exhaust servo eliminator HEALTECH?

I ask you this because during the search it tells me that it is compatible for diavel 1200 and not compatible for diavel 1260. is it possible?
did the 1200 model also have an exhaust servomotor?
thanks a lot again !!

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Esclusore Valvola di scarico HealTech ESE-D01 per Ducati Panigale, M821/1200, 1100 Evo, Hypermotard, Hyperstrada, Scrambler, Streetfighter 848, Streetfighter 1098 12-, Multistrada 1200, Diavel

Esclusore Valvola di scarico HealTech ESE-D01 per Ducati Panigale, M821/1200, 1100 Evo, Hypermotard, Hyperstrada, Scrambler, Streetfighter 848, Streetfighter 1098 12-, Multistrada 1200, Diavel
Esclusore Valvola di scarico HealTech ESE-D01 per Ducati Panigale, M821/1200, 1100 Evo, Hypermotard, Hyperstrada, Scrambler, Streetfighter 848, Streetfighter 1098 12-, Multistrada 1200, Diavel
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All models of Diavel MY2011 to 2022 have servomotor.
I used TuneBoy for Diavel MY2011, am using RexXer for Diavel 1260 right now.
I've been choosing not a servo eliminator but ECU flashing to disable servomotors.
So probavely I am not a proper adviser.
HEALTECH web site picks different models as ESE-D01 for Diavel MY2011 to 2018, ESE-D02 for Diavel MY2019 to 2022 as far as I checked the compatibility.
thanks talkriver you are very professional. I offer you a pizza :) I ask for another information: is it possible to find the arrow indy race homologation certificate of our bike? arrow can send it but obviously requires the code printed on the exhaust and in my state no one has bought indy race because it is very bad :)
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the reason for the search for the homologation certificate is because in Italy every two years it needs a revision (by law) and even if the exhaust is racing (they also check the db) they require a homologation certificate. let's say that they are not checking if there is a print code on the exhaust.
obviously if the police stop you on the street it is worth nothing because they control it. But I am more worried about the revision
the reason for the search for the homologation certificate is because in Italy every two years it needs a revision (by law) and even if the exhaust is racing (they also check the db) they require a homologation certificate. let's say that they are not checking if there is a print code on the exhaust.
obviously if the police stop you on the street it is worth nothing because they control it. But I am more worried about the revision
Also in Japan, government inspect bikes periodically by similar way you explained. Officers check that exhaust pipes are original products of bike makers or that Japan homologation mark are pressed on those pipes if those pipes are aftermarket ones.

Unfortunately I don't know whether homologation mark pressed or not on Arrow pipes.
Even if homologation mark exist on Arrow pipes, they would probably be EU homologation mark. Since officers accept only Japan homologation mark in Japan, whether those marks are pressed or not doesn't matter for bike owners in Japan.

I hope another member will answer your question.

By the way, what MY is your Diavel?
Pipe shape of connect portion are different between MY2019/2020 and MY2021/2022. Arrow exhaust pipes are produced to fit MY2019/2020. MY2021/2022 doesn't allow installation of Arrow pipes.
Right now I noticed you just recently joined this forum, then I got worried if your Diavel is MY2022.
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