[Voodooo]

Hey guys.
I have a 2020 Red Diavel 1260s. I'm undecided on a exhaust. I can't decide between the Termignoni, Arrow, or Zard.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of each? I know looks are subjective.
I wish I could see and hear more info on the Arrow pro race version.

Is one brand higher quality in workmanship over the other?

Thanks.

 

[Noggie]

At the moment there is not much to say.

Termi - comes with Ducati engine map which is a must.

All other - No map, the ECU is not "cracked" by aftermarket suppliers, hence you need a piggyback system like a Power commander, Bazzaz etc to tune the bike.
Also you need to figure out how to trick the flap control in the stock exhaust.

So short answer, currently ONLY the Termi bought from a Ducati Dealer is a plug and play solution. if you buy on Ebay etc you don't get the engine map.

Nothing is impossible, depends how much effort you want to put in it.

 

[DucaRicardo]

Like what noggie said is correct. I have an XD and have a termi kit. The kit for the Xdiavel comes with the Tune USB key which is a bonus. No need to get an aftermarket tuner. Zard has a new exhaust that looks like the one on the Xdiavel. The exhaust systems for either bike can get pretty pricey. You definitely have to pay to play with Ducatis

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[Ghorgon63]

Yeah, you have to pay to play.

You also have another option: HP Corse black / silver exhaust.
Cost approximately 40% compare to Termi & Zard. And a few bucks for exhaust servo eliminator

 

[Wideopengas]

Nice but the price is the same for all three just about. But at least we have another look to consider.

 

[Voodooo]

I just ordered the Arrow exhaust for my Diavel.
In "my" opinion it looks the best.
I went with the titanium pro race exhaust.

 

[Ghorgon63]

Let us know the weight different stock vs Arrow

 

[talkriver]

Let us know the weight different stock vs Arrow

We can see the OEM pipes weights 10.0kg at Zard Exhaust site.
Arrow Exhaust site shows the end can weights 1.25kg, and the link pipe weights 1.64kg. Total 2.89kg.
The difference is around 3kg.

 

[Voodooo]

Yah this looks the best.

We can see the OEM pipes weights 10.0kg at Zard Exhaust site.
Arrow Exhaust site shows the end can weights 1.25kg, and the link pipe weights 1.64kg. Total 2.89kg.
The difference is around 3kg.

My math tells me that the Arrows I went with give a weight savings of 7.11kg or 15.6 pounds.

 

[talkriver]

My math tells me that the Arrows I went with give a weight savings of 7.11kg or 15.6 pounds.

Oops. You are correct.

 

[Ghorgon63]

Always nice to have approx 7kg weight savings.
And together with Lithium battery, you can reach 10kg weight savings (if you care about such things)

 

[Voodooo]

Always nice to have approx 7kg weight savings.
And together with Lithium battery, you can reach 10kg weight savings (if you care about such things)

Exactly.
Plus you can drop even more weight and improve handling and reduce unsprung weight if you get carbon fiber wheels.

 

[gee.dee.kay]

Has anyone gotten the arrows yet and has pictures of the left side? And maybe a video?

 

[drstimpy]

Also please let us know the arrow fueling requirements 🤩

 

[gee.dee.kay]

Exactly.
Plus you can drop even more weight and improve handling and reduce unsprung weight if you get carbon fiber wheels.

Did you take it to a dealer and get the termi tune done or did you get the valve eliminator or what did you do tune wise?

 

[Voodooo]

Did you take it to a dealer and get the termi tune done or did you get the valve eliminator or what did you do tune wise?

I just got my Arrow exhaust today (July 8-21)
I’ll be installing it myself and using the servo buddy. 3 guys on Instagram have the arrow on their 1260 Diavel and have not uploaded a tune and all have said it’s been zero issues. I prefer a tune but don’t have a choice. I will say it’s been a long 13 week wait but the arrow exhaust looks bad ass. I’ll post pics after I install it this weekend. It’s way lighter than the stock brick.

 

[Noggie]

After giving the tune requirement some thought, I guess it will depend on the type of exhaust.

1. Termignoni comes with a Ducati tune
This exhaust is not road legal in most places and the Catalytic converters are gone.
This is the main reason for a required tune, along with the missing valve.

2. Any other brand that is road legal containing catalytic converters.
Tune is probably not that necessary as it has catalytic converters and there are ways to omit the missing valve issue.

3. Non-catalytic converter exhausts.
Would need a tune same as the Termignoni and a way to omit the missing valve issue.

So if the Arrow exhaust is in category 2. you should not need a tune.

 

[Voodooo]

I for one am very happy I went with the arrow exhaust. The look, the quality, the easy install, the sound.
only down fall was the wait. About 15 week wait. But now I can say it was worth it. I went with the Pro Race Titanium. I’ll try to post videos later today.

 

[Ghorgon63]

You didn't put it on the weight before it get mounted? Just curious to know the weight/ compare to other Brand.

 

[Voodooo]

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You didn't put it on the weight before it get mounted? Just curious to know the weight/ compare to other Brand.

the pro race Arrow such as what I have is 6.5 US pounds or about 14.3 kg.