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#21 vik

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:39 AM

View PostJdgreenberg, on 27 October 2011 - 08:14 AM, said:

Nice work! Care to show us how you did it? Glad you figured out your little problem :)


The problem was" bulb flickering" after a lot of trouble shooting by Gil, it was basically the bulb hitting the reflector inside, since the hid bulb is about 2mm longer than the stock bulb! so just push the reflector slightly with your finger and it works fine! :yahoo

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 04:43 PM

Did y'all order the single bulb kit or the dual?

http://www.kryptonbu...le-bulb-HID-kit
http://www.kryptonbu...Kits/H7-HID-kit

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:00 PM

You only need the single. The high beam is h4 and not a good idea to change to hid.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:37 PM

View PostJdgreenberg, on 27 October 2011 - 05:00 PM, said:

You only need the single. The high beam is h4 and not a good idea to change to hid.

Why is it not a good idea? The idea of high and low beams being HID is compelling.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:58 PM

View PostColdduc, on 27 October 2011 - 06:37 PM, said:

Why is it not a good idea? The idea of high and low beams being HID is compelling.


HID is not an instant light, it takes about 20 sec to come to full power!

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:41 PM

Fitting the one single ballast and the inverter in the headlight housing is a big enough project...there is not all that much room in there.

For all you thinking of doing this mod. Like Vik said, after much aggravation, I figured out that the bulb was making contact with the back of the metal reflector in the headlight and therefore preventing the bulb from lighting properly. So GEEEENTLY apply pressure on the reflector and you can make enough room for the bulb. Be careful, it takes practically no effort at all to move the reflector...ask me how I know. If you do adjust the reflector too far forward, as I inadvertently did, with a mini pair of needle-nose pliers you can easily correct it.

Also some headlight housings are different...mine had the plastic cross brace as the original poster's did. I also secured my ballast as the original poster did with zip-ties. Vik's headlight housing did not have the plastic cross brace, granted it was easier to get all the HIDs electronics in the housing, trying to secure the ballast proved to be a lot more of a headache. With zip-ties we secured the ballast to the bolts which run through the the housing. This was like completing surgery with both my and Vik's hands heavily involved in the installation.

This mod is totally worth it though. We also used the Krypton 35w kit with 5000k bulb temp...this is the headlight the Diavel should have came with. The bike really has that classy high-end vehicle look now. The HID throws a lot more light and illuminates the road a lot better then the stock bulb. The light fires up blueish and then warms up rather quickly to a super bright white light. It does not light blue or yellow, it's a bright white light, which makes me really satisfied with the bulb color temp. Watching Vik coming down the road with the new headlight also makes the bike a lot more distinguishable, and not just blend in with the yellow street lights...

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:17 AM

Thanks for the great write up and descriptions. I will definitely be doing this mod.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:56 AM

ordered!

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:08 AM

I ordered mine and as soon as I installed them, they started flickering. Soon the stop working and I've sent two emails and so far with no response. Looks like customer service is non exsistant with this comapny.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 11:01 AM

View PostLA Duckman, on 01 November 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

I ordered mine and as soon as I installed them, they started flickering. Soon the stop working and I've sent two emails and so far with no response. Looks like customer service is non exsistant with this comapny.


may be a loose connection! make sure the tip of the bulb is not touching the inside of the reflector!!!

after that read below! all the best!

HID Kit Troubleshooting!
Cheap HID kits may flicker because of a poorly constructed ballast. These cheap HID kits ballasts do not contain the Inverter to convert the DC power to high voltage AC power. AC power is the preferred method of powering HID bulbs correctly, givng trouble free steady light output. HID bulbs will run on DC power but this method although cheaper to produce shortens the bulb life and can cause the light to have a fluttering shimmy effect that is unpleasant. Save yourself time aggravation and extra costs and buy a quality HID kit with digital AC ballasts from HIDLOOK!

If you are experiencing issues such as; flickering HID lights, one side of your HID lights is not working or any other issues please read.
The biggest and most common issue with aftermarket HID conversion kits is VOLTAGE. If your ballast is not getting the proper voltage your lights will not work properly. Here is a list of issues that will cause low voltage:

1. Daytime running lights
2. Poor battery
3. Poor alternator
4. Automatic Headlights
5. Some vehicles computers can sense when the headlight bulbs are out and send low voltage to the headlights. We have witnessed this on new Mustangs, new Chrysler 300s and new Dodge Magnum's. This causes the hid lights to strobe or flicker.
Now for the SOLUTIONS to your HID Conversion Kit troubles!

1. Relay Harness - The relay harness will allow the ballasts to draw power directly from the vehicle battery thus eliminating most low or fluctuating voltage problems. Relay Harness

2. Sometimes you will need a capacitor on the relay harness to boost the power to the relay itself, since the relay needs 12v to operate properly also. HID Capacitor

3. Resistor Packs - The pack contains a resistor. The resistor tricks the cars computer into believing there are halogen bulbs in the system and keeping 12v going to the headlight plugs. Use this option for "bulb out indicator" or "strobe effect" flickering HID problems or both. Resistor Packs


4.High Power Capacitors - These will increase the power to the ballast, thus eliminating the HID flickering and strobe lights effect. It will also put some resistance on the headlight plugs and will eliminate the bulb out indicator on most vehicles. This option will fix 90% of the vehicles with flickering HID problems. Use this option for "strobe effect" flickering HID problem and or "bulb out indicator".HID Capacitor Pack

Note: Try the CAPACITOR PACK first then if it does not fix the problem move to the RESISTOR PACK. Dodge Hemi Products must use the RESISTOR PACK.

The only other thing that may cause your HID lights to not function properly is:
1. Faulty Ballast
2. Faulty HID bulb
3. Faulty wiring
Solutions:
Of course any faulty parts will need to be replaced. To test parts:
example: If your right HID works and your left does not, then take the ballast from the non working side and move it to the working side. If the working side then fails to light, you probably have a bad ballast. If it do light up the bulb on the working side then check the wires on the non working side. Check voltage coming out of the stock plug. Voltage should be between 11 volts and 14 volts. If it is too low you will need a wire relay harness. If it is ok then check the voltage through the wires that came with the HID kit. IF voltage is still ok. Then swap the bulb with the working sides bulb. If it do not light then your bulb is most likley defective. If it do light then there is some kind of voltage issue with the non working side and a wire relay harness should be used.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:50 PM

Great post vik. I hope this helps la duckman

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:38 AM

Hey guys when I ordered my kit from Kryptonbulbs, i called customer service unsuccessfully and sent out two different emails, one to customer service and one to tech support. I wound up figuring out the problem, the bulb was touching the reflector inside the headlight and not allowing it to fire up correctly. The bulb would just flicker and not light up properly. Once I figured this out everything working brilliantly.

However, so you guys are aware, I never received any communication from either of the two attempts I initially made when reaching out to them for their assistance. So I would definitely be a little leery about recommending this company... :thumbdn

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:55 AM

View Postvik, on 01 November 2011 - 11:01 AM, said:


may be a loose connection! make sure the tip of the bulb is not touching the inside of the reflector!!!


Thank you. I thriple check the connector and even took out the HID bulb from my car just to see if I had recieved a damage bulb (the bulb was pushed against the case it came in and I had to crack the case). I think the ballast went bad.

I finally got a hold of them when I told them that I will be contacting my credit card company. They are sending a replacement. I understand that unit is very cheap and they are not making too much money off the product but the entire experience has left me with mixed feeling about doing business with them again.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 04:16 AM

Make sure if you opt for an HID kit that you check the current output (I out) of your ballast!

You want it to be at least 4 amps (most are 3.2-3.5).

A 4 amp minimum ballast will result in a brighter, whiter more stable field of light from the bulb.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 02:35 AM

ordered my HID kit and it's on the way, thanks for the review and doing all the hard work for us, love your work!!!!

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:52 AM

Xenon lighting on a motorcycle is a must...

I installed 2x 12000K for dipped and 2x 8000K for high beam in my Buell; no way other drivers/riders/animals will say they never even noticed me... (unless you're deaf and blind, you should notice me now) ; tested the lights thoroughly during a nightly run on a pitch-black highway... literally as bright as day!! For high beams, just be careful not to keep them on or you'll really bother oncoming traffic.

The Diavel looks very futuristic, but the one wee bulb as headlight is for me a big issue; when I get my Diavel, xenon lighting is the first mod I'll do!!

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:43 PM

12000 K !?!?!?!
LOL...
Did you know that 12000 kelvin is basically ultraviolet light (UV)?
Did you know that UV light is not visible to the human eye?

COM`ON... check that again...

PS: Original HID Lights on most cars (BMW, Mercedes, Honda Volvo) are around 5000 K.
More than that, you`ll start getting blueish light...

Regards



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Posted 23 November 2011 - 06:44 PM

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 10:28 PM

Airman, I'm quite certain of it; 12000K is NOT uv at all, but in my case it is a very dark purple; if the Ducatisti permit, I'll post a link to some pics of my Buell... just click the various pics to see what the lighting looks like; in daylight and with a crappy cam the lights look blue-ish, at night clearly purple: http://users.telenet.../Buell%201125R/

Colour-temp charts like posted above are available on several websites and in catalogues; most people indeed prefer 5000-6000K because it looks pretty 'normal'; I prefer 8000K but for the Buell I wanted something that stands out; even with the purple haze, the light output is more than enough for normal circumstances; when adding the dual high-beams, whoah!

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 01:21 AM

Ok!
The thing is that, any light above the "optimum" 5000 K will be less bright...
Have it your way! ;)






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